Here is a recent reference from Trevor Beattie.
“Nat and Lol are special.
They were, are and always will be ahead of the game. Which is a pretty smart attribute to have at the moment.
I hired them over five years ago, and the stuff they were doing and suggesting then, the rest of us are just catching up with now.
They’re super bright, super nice and charged with all the energy of a tree full of monkeys. They are loyal, patient, a great guiding influence on young teams and smart with clients.
If you have the chance to hire Nat and Lol, I’d do it NOW if I were you. Before someone you’re really jealous of goes and gets them first and destroys your self-confidence forever.”